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Gin & Cocktails307 days ago

My best (to date) bottled cocktails

RehaanAsked in Gin & Cocktails

I fucked up big time. This isn‘t mixology anymore, it‘s R‘n‘D. It‘s chemistry - science, bitch! It all started as an idea to make cocktails I love as a to go version. I ordered PET cans and a seamer to produce my own cocktails 2go. But I wanted more: I wanted shelf life, I wanted stability. So I swapped incredients. First the fruit juice had to go, no more real lime - citric acid. I added natural flavors of lime to compensate. The weird thing about it?? IT WORKED! I was hooked. Made some variations, designed shelf stable batched cocktails like the big players, but with the good shit. So I finally got to this: 40 ml rum blanco, 20 ml rum reposado, 12 ml overproof rum, 12 ml triples sec, 12 ml orgeat, 8 ml simples syrup, 6 ml dissolved citric acid, 90 ml water, a few drops of lime flavor — that‘s my homemade Mai Tai Buzzball with 18.1% ABV. It‘s smooth, it tastes original, it is the perfect size for a quick and dirty cocktail on the run. And it elevates my drinking habit only on a small scale, at least that‘s what I tell my wife. What do you guys think?

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Nitya305 days ago

Yer alcoholic, 'Arry. Sounds amazing. Call me when you perfect the Manhattan.

Noor305 days ago

I honestly never made one I just realized. Could be interesting.

Nikhil306 days ago

Want

Niharika306 days ago

This is really great. I didn't know I needed to do this, but now I do. My wife isn't gonna be happy.

Ishaan307 days ago

my favorite kind of cocktail making, science based mixology!! did you buy a kit online to seal and package the PET cans?

Isha307 days ago

I bought this seamer: https://www.zonesun.com/products/zonesun-zs-fjg100-manual-can-seamer-bottle-sealing-machine And got the cans from petcan-europe.com - they come in a 200pack but they have various sizes wich come in a 100pack, too. Right now I'm designing Rub On Stickers for on the can as you can't really label them because they are so round.

Aryan307 days ago

thats super cool, thanks for sharing, you also tried it with carbonated drinks?

Avni307 days ago

I did indeed but not with this little ones, as they have only 200ml I like them to have higher ABV. But I also have 500ml-cans with wich I tried a cuba libre and a moscow mule so far. The big fun with them is, that I also have another kind of lid. It‘s a little thinner, looks almost like aluminium foil, has a latch for opening completely but hold drinks with carbonisation as well without leakage. What‘s the fun part? I don‘t open them, I take a glass straw and ram it through the lid into the drink. Almost like you would with a bubble tea with sealed plastic lids, if you know them. It takes a little strenght but there is almost no spillage as one may think it would be. I should post a video of that sometime, haha.

Arjun307 days ago

Three months ago, when you posted your Negroni buzzball, you said you got your samples from a trade fair. Do you now have an actual source, or are you still using those samples?

Avantika307 days ago

You’re right. I wanted to give an update. I was in contact with a wholesaler in belgium and after a long and annoying time mailing each other they finally was able to send me a pack of 200 cans (minimum order for the 200ml-balls), alongside with 100 pieces of a bigger can for other stuff. All costs combined this first stock cost me around 220€ but its good quality. Every can is single packed in plastic so nothing comes in it before filling them. The page is petcan-europe.com if you want to get them for yourself.

Alisha307 days ago

rad!!

Aisha307 days ago

Fuck yea dude

Aditya307 days ago

In line for bottle deets as well.

Aditya307 days ago

Reminds me of the father n son on youtube that buy the gas station prepackaged cocktails. "Why does this work?"

Bhavesh307 days ago

Got a link?

Demo307 days ago

Link for lime flavoring used?

Test User307 days ago

send me a sample i love it

saloni307 days ago

This is super well thought out, do you have a library of recipes?

Bhavya307 days ago

I do, but still figuring out some details like sourness. For example 6 ml or 8 ml can make a big difference as it is super concentrated. The same with the flavors I only can measure in drops, wich isn‘t pretty scalable

Yash307 days ago

My club has a canning machine that can fit 16oz. Was the orgeat homemade or store bought? That might affect shelf stability. We are in the process of making our own "not water" margaritas that come out crystal clear through various acids that mimic lime juice. In addition to your citric acid, think of using malic and ascorbic acid. Lime has many other minor acids, but those three will get you further than citric acid alone. Again, curious on how you achieved shelf stable orgeat if it wasn't store bought.

Charvi307 days ago

That‘s interesting! I heard that you use different acids in super juice as well. Is there a ratio you was happy with when playing around with the different acids? I use store bought orgeat. Did it only one time myself but it got moldy in the bottle. But yeah, for these cans I only use store bought incredients so far, because I don‘t want to risk the shelf stability.

Vani307 days ago

bro PLS drop the buzzballs link. buzzballs are sort of a bit w me n my siblings lol would be wild to make some

Chetan307 days ago

Got them from petcan-europe.com as I live in germany. Don‘t know a US source right now, sorry.

Tejas307 days ago

First time I’ve heard rum referred to as blanco and reposado…

anurag307 days ago

They make rum in quite a few Spanish speaking countries.

Tara307 days ago

Let me know if you need some branding help

Chirag307 days ago

What do you mean?

Tanvi307 days ago

Brooo thats awesome! I gotta try to do that!

Tanishka307 days ago

Commenting hoping OP will give us the deets on getting the empty bottles etc.

Daksh307 days ago

I got them from petcan-europe.com as I live in germany but I think they ship worldwide. Minimum order for the 200ml-balls is 200 pieces as they come in a pack of 200. Sounds much, but the day they came I already filled 25 of them out of curiosity.

mansi307 days ago

I would also love to know where they got the bottles, I'd love to try this

Tanay307 days ago

When you're a millionaire, remember me

Darsh307 days ago

When I‘m a millionaire there are NoMore_BadDays, makes sense! Dude, I really thought of turning it into a product for a while now. But alcoholic beverages is a pretty hard market and I would need to sacrifice quality by a big notch to get production costs low enough to make profit, so - at least for now - it‘s a hobby.

Simran307 days ago

Yeah, an empty tonic/soda/whatever bottle is free.

Siddharth307 days ago

which pet cans and seamer did you go with?

Dev307 days ago

I use [this](https://www.zonesun.com/products/zonesun-zs-fjg100-manual-can-seamer-bottle-sealing-machineZonesunZS%E2%80%91FJG100ManualCanSeamerforPET&AluminumCansinSmall-BatchProduction) seamer from china and the cans I bought at petcan-europe.com, 200pack is minimum order

Shruti307 days ago

That’s fun! For the dissolved citric acid are you using a liquid citric acid or dissolving a set amount of powdered citric acid in water and then using that?

Diya307 days ago

For right now only citric acid witch I disolve myself in water. I did 10% for the first batch, but I think I‘m going with 20% on the next one so I need less liquid in the final drink.

Ananya307 days ago

perhaps [pseudo citrus](https://www.corpserevived.com/post/maximizing-citrus-part-4-mastering-pseudo-citrus)?

Ansh Gupta307 days ago

Powdered is readily available and easy to measure when using other acids like malic and ascorbic.

Vihaan307 days ago

My go-to ratio for making fake lime with powders is 94g water, 4g citric acid powder, 2g malic acid powder

Shubhi307 days ago

Had this same question ty

Shanaya307 days ago

Good thinkin. We started batching cocktails in shooters. Perfect for flights and sporting events. Just add ice.

Ekansh307 days ago

That‘s cool, do you have a picture? How do you pack them?

Arnav307 days ago

Flights? Like pre-security shots?

Sahana307 days ago

I'm just going to keep asking what the point of these things is.

Sheetal307 days ago

They are cocktails you can take with you backpacking, tailgating, or to someone's house. This is a much better alternative than bringing four bottles and mixing on the spot. I like to reuse small tonic water bottles, but saving a bunch of small bottles isn't for everyone.

Shaurya307 days ago

What's your problem with them?

Sanvi307 days ago

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Ritika307 days ago

Great job, looks awesome! My client owns Buzzballs so don't get too popular and take away their business once you make it big!

Eshani307 days ago

Before that they sue me, haha

Reyansh307 days ago

Pretty slick.

Rhea307 days ago

How much did the cans and seamer setup cost?